Market Excess Spillover

While I am a firm believer in the China story, the stock market gains there needs to be continually reassessed. Many bulls would cite the huge profit growth in store for many listed companies as the main pillar driving higher valuations. The above chart from WSJ is very revealing. Just look at "investment income as a percentage of net income of listed companies". Listed companies flushed with cash usually invest in other Chinese listed firms. On a sharply rising market, the "unrealised / realised gains" will be substantial. Now if 24% of a listed company's net income comes from these holdings, I'd be very worried.

The oft cited profit growth need to be adjusted for the stock market effect. Savvy investors should strip out these type of gains to get a better hold of fundamentals. Imagine a 30% crash, what will happen to the write downs affecting these so called profits.

There are normal earnings and quality earnings. Investment gains from investing in listed companies does not constitute as quality earnings. Quality earnings has to be predictable, preferably from organic growth, non-volatile and recurring.

Good analysts will strip out these gains as one-off type and not include as part of normal operational gains. You cannot assess PER and PER growth properly using these one-off gains. It would be better if the gains are realised, i.e. securities held are sold off to obtain cash. Smart companies would have a "properly outlined strategy" with regards to these type of investments. This is so that analysts and investors do not have to second-guess management's motives and objectives. A company can end up with 50% of net profit from playing the stock market, what then? If a company likes to play the market so much and think they are so good at it, they should set up a separate listed entity in fund management.

Comments

rask3 said…
Hi,

I don't know about China, but in many countries,including Malaysia, Accounting Standards do not allow unrealised stock investment gains to be included in the P&L account.
Whereas, stock investment losses are immediately recognised.

And balance sheet values too should not be taken at face value, for the above and other reasons.


Rask
cin said…
Hi Dali

THANKS!
DanielXX said…
Same thing happened during Japan in 1980s when many firms speculated in financial instruments eg. derivatives to jazz up their bottomlines spectacularly. Then the house of cards all went down when the market began to turn. Even at these artificially-boosted, low-quality profit levels, general market PE was something like 100X. How scary is that?!
im too a firm believer of the china story. they are now overtaking the germans as the 3rd largest economy...and eventually the 2nd spot from japan. even now they are taking proactive steps to enhanced their capital markets latest being allowing insurers to double their investment portfolio. I think in the near future we would see more and more institutional role play in this market with in turn would sustain if not pushes its indexes to new levels