Queries On Genting & Call Warrants
hi dali, perhaps if the tight old beancounters so adept at kiasuness there did not put such a tight squeeze on the fees, yields and spreads, given the current market conditions, the investment bankers would've made their chinese walls a bit more transparent ala david copperfield?? and does anyone seriously think the kiasu kings down south would award their only pleasure island to a MALAYSIAN company thats already taken so much money from their countrymen for the last few decades? somemore without even a local partner? (unless they commit, say, 6 bil US? hahahah just like TM (aka Totally Mad Bhd?) buying M1.. another hahahah) I would rate genting a SELL (on strength-lar..) the research houses are still being too kind.different matter - i hope david's got nothing to do with the landmarks buy??..
hi, any chance you have take a look at Genting international, do you think it is a buy at current level 33-34ct, before the award of the Sentosa IR?
My Take - There is a lot of positives being priced into Genting at the moment. They have a slice of London Clubs, which is being bidded a lot higher by Harrahs. They look to be in the driving seat to secure Stanley Leisure. Even though their NTA will get whacked, properties like that does not come around so often. The casino business is quite competitive and there are not that many areas left where you could put your foot down. Growing organically is also very difficult. Las Vegas and Cotai strip are saturated, or in Macau's case, getting saturated. The last 2 bastion where there is concentrated population with high liquidity are HK/China and UK (Europe and Australia are too dispersed in numbers), hence you need to be there. Like it or not, Genting has to be an international casino player, if not, it will get marginalised (look at Resorts World). As for the Sentosa thing, most people are pricing in a 70% success chance. Hence the upside is limited even if Genting gets it. But the sell down could be bigger if they don't get it. (I think they will get it... ). As for Landmarks, its a silly move, and I'm sorry but I think DC has his fingerprints all over that deal. The assets within Landmarks are OK, especially the power plant. The hotels are OK also, but in the eyes of everyone they will perceive that the casino license in Bintan might be a lure. In the eyes of the assessing committee for Sentosa IR, you don't need to give them that kind of doubt in their minds that should Genting not get Sentosa, then they will try to compete with a mega casino in Bintan. The whole thing leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. The timing of the deal sucks, better to have not done it. As for the Singapore authorities, I think they will handle it professionally, yes, bad blood and everything, but Singapore also needs Malaysia, plus the big sell-off every now and then (Alliance Bank, big buildings, etc..). Plus this one, Genting International will the vehicle, listed in Singapore, it will allow for Singaporeans to have access to the growth of the company, all things being equal.
hi there, can you elaborate further on the following "The double whammy came when Resorts World just raised RM1.1 billion in a convertible note issue, lead managed by CIMB. Wallah… in less than a week, CIMB came up with a 100 million call warrants on Genting. A call warrant necessarily means the issuing house is betting on no-conversion or that the Genting’s stock price will be flat or down in the near future." If they issued call warrant, shouldn't the issued manager deem bullish on the counter? I do not get you on why it is deemed bearish and it is linked to no conversion of the note?
My Take - Again, all things being equal, an issuer of a covered/call warrant does not need permission from the company or owners. They make money from the issue price of the CW. If I were to take RHB Cap at RM2.70, I could issue a CW probably at RM0.27, thus giving it a 10x gearing. When you buy the thing at issue price, I will pocket the premium (27 sen). If I issue 20 million, I get RM5.4m. Assuming the conversion price is also at RM2.70 over 10 months, you would only seriously consider converting if the share price traded above RM3.00 - that's because you bought the CW at 27 sen plus you would have to pay the conversion price of RM2.70 = RM2.97, and you add in the commissions, so RM3.00 is the bare minimum before you would want to convert. So, there is a huge comfort zone for the issuer. However, if RHB Cap is involved in a takeover catfight and rises to RM3.40, there will be plenty of conversion demand, and the issuer will have to come up with RHB Cap shares at RM2.70 to deliver or pay the difference. So, an issuer generally is betting for a flat or downtrending share price in the near future.
Of course, an issuer could hedge by buying all the necessary shares at RM2.70 first in anticipation - but who bears the cost of buying and holding the bloody shares? What if the shares then drop to RM2.50, who bears the losses? That would totally wipe out the 27 issue price profit! A prudent issuer of CW would have some sort of hedging strategy ( I hope). A very simple and riskless one would be to engage the owners of the shares to sign over an option. For example, I could go to Lim Kok Thay and ask him to sign over an option to allow me to buy 10m Genting's shares at RM24.50 for 10 months. In return for that, I may have to share the premium/issue price with the owner, but I am covered totally. There are other trading strategies and hedging strategies that can be employed when issuing CW, and in managing the position over the time span, but generally you want the share to go down for maximum profits.
That should be simple enough, get a bad share... but the issuer's dilemma is they also need a share where there has substantive interest, hence the IOI Corp covered warrant and now Genting. It also needs to have decent free float and share capital - so that it will be very hard to manipulate and not get hit by sharp syndicates. Can you imagine, doing a CW on Tebrau? It will be popular, my god, the volatility!!! Buyers of CW need to be careful, the issuers are always giving out wonderful names to invest such as Maxis, Genting, Astro, IOI, etc... they all have good fundamentals and seems an easy buy, plus the gearing is the big lure, isn't it. But as an issuing house, I have two factors in my favour, one is time premium, which dwindles down very fast. The other is the secret weapon that nobody will tell you - these stocks all have VERY LOW VOLATILITY or beta, means they do not move up and down like a yo-yo but tracks the index very closely. A warrant of any kind is a geared instrument, which lives and breathes on volatility, a thing that has no volatility, might as well go and put into time deposit. I think I can issue a CW now with great confidence, Petronas Gas at RM9.00, I will be generous la, I give you gearing of 15x at an issue price of RM0.60. Conversion at RM9.00 over 10 months. Can you see me laughing to the bank... heck I can even make it sweeter for you by giving you 20x gearing la at an issue price of RM0.45. I'd probably still pocket the premium as the stock probably won't go anywhere in 10 months. So approach ALL covered/call warrants with caution.