Sunday, April 29, 2012

It Truly Matters ......

Naturally, I expect the mainstream papers on Sunday morning to blast the Bersih organiser for breaching the barricades thus forcing the police to act. What else is there to expect from mainstream media?


By and large the over 150,000 crowd were peaceful and respectful. But knowing the congregation of such a large crowd, there will be incidents. Some will mention the police car which went out of control and protesters who overturned the car. However if you view the proper video, the protesters actually protected the driver from a public lynching. The reason they overturned the car was that there was a person pinned under the car. Same incidents, different facts.


We cannot expect 100% of the crowd to be calm, there are bound to be some hotheads, and the government will try to spin it as the rakyat's fault. Look at the bigger picture everyone (that means you, the government). The people are angry, none of them were paid money to turn up, many sacrificed time and money to just make the journey. If you still cannot fathom the depth of the dissatisfaction, you are well within all our low expectations.


I have a friend who had a can of tear gas right at her feet, while walking away she cried, not because of the sting but that her heart was so dashed that the government would do this to her people. Every single one who had their faces, eyes and throats stung by tear gas will wear them as badges of honour, and all Malaysians (true Malaysians) are very proud of you.


If there were no obstacles in transportation and LRT, I think you would have seen doubled the numbers of protesters. All you cronies of government, the MCA running dogs, those who depend on the ruling government for their livelihood ... know this, your time is very short. You cannot fight against the people, when the people have truth, dignity, integrity and higher causes on their side.


What's with the razor barbed wires? How inhumane!


Who started the violence? Who came with chemical laced water trucks? Who came with batons and tear gas guns? Who came with just body, bones and spirit?


A government should know when they are not wanted. You may kick and bicker, you may use the judiciary, the public institutions, the police force, the media to do all your biding ... the more you do, the more desperate you are. YOU WILL BE LUCKY TO RETAIN ONE STATE (in West Malaysia) in the next elections, in spite of the gerrymandering and vote rigging.


What was so fucking hard to let the people to sit down at Dataran Merdeka? What were the police protecting the turf from? Its not like we are marching through the palace or Parliament! Why the need to go against the people's wishes? Do you REALLY think this is a minority movement? How fucking deluded are you?


Maybe its because we have the same government for over 50 years, and being voted out is not in their vocabulary. Well, Malaysia is still a democracy, and the very fuck we have a place called Dataran Merdeka is that we have the right to choose, and rather than trample, coerce, harass our wishes ... why not just respect our wishes. Without the people, there is no government, we put you there, we can put somebody else. Understand! 


Malaysians are very nice people, it has to take a lot to get us very worked up to do something of this scale. The years of endemic corruption, the fuck care attitude towards the aspirations of Malaysians, have all come to a "I am not taking this crap anymore" level.


In many ways, I am GLAD things turned out the way it did, it will reinforce our votes and actually empower even more to be proactive to do the right thing. Like a Bollywood movie, we know how this is all going to end, and we are near it ... Bangkit Rakyat Malaysia!

43 comments:

trusbx said...

Thanks, was waiting for your update.

HeeHow said...

It was truly a humbling experience to join the rakyat river flowing down the streets of KL. It was a real showcase of 1Malaysia! Bravo all!

suri said...

Please stick to financial topics, because when you talk about politics, you sound unbelievably stupid.

Ps: There are videos going viral in YouTube clearly showing that there was NOBODY pinned under the car. That's just a stupid excuse the mob made up to justify their violence, and you're dumb enough to buy it.

suri said...

Nobody was pinned under the car. Get the cure for your stupidity at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flQ-FxeNyCo&feature=p%C2%AD%C2%ADlcp

Unknown said...

suri

wow you must be the smart one and why dont you stick to UMNOputra blogs for daily dose of shit news.

good for you to continue supporting an insolent and corrupt regime which is not much better than Mugabe. Your rights, anyway but i dont have a cure for such stupidity though.

Unknown said...

suri

wow you must be the smart one and why dont you stick to UMNOputra blogs for daily dose of shit news.

good for you to continue supporting an insolent and corrupt regime which is not much better than Mugabe. Your rights, anyway but i dont have a cure for such stupidity though.

William Wang said...

No matter where BERSIH chose to hold their sit-in, BN will stop them at the last moment, this is what they call damage control and a good method to reduce the size of gathering. And to SURI, if you want your stock to go up, pray for a change in government, this will make your day, do you realise SET had gone up by more than 50% since the change of government?

the horse said...

Dali : komentar yang bernas & tepat. Negara ini milik semua. Korupsi berlandaskan bangsa & agama adalah cukai yang paling mahal. Negara Akan hancur sekiranya korupsi mental & material tidak di bendung.
We vote them out. At GE 13.

JLo said...

Suri, did you even bother to watch the video where that same police car RAN OVER a few people? Ofcourse some of the people might think there's somebody pinned underneath!

There was more than one person screaming "ada orang kat bawah!". Under the circumstances I reckon many of us would have helped overturn that car just to be sure. Life is more precious than a dumb car.

Suri, get off your high horse and look at things from more angles than just the one that you've seen before you form your weak opinions.

Oh and don't forget, this is Dali's blog. He can right whatever he wants, don't like it? then stick to the mainstream media then.

Unknown said...

I don't seewhy the police need to punch those who were arrested... To me I think the police seems to be enjoying it...! Can the police be identified so that they can be charged as police brutality ? Rakyat has been having a bad impression about the police... Their reputation is known as LAWFUL ROBBERS which I don't want to eleborate further .. I think I leave it to the policemen who profess themselves as a Muslim

johnny said...

lol...i cant wait to hear whats Dali going to say to Suri.. :P

johnny said...

lol..I cant wait to hear a reply from Dali about Suri :P

yh said...

suri

That's not necessary to shoot people stupid/dumb. well, u can choose not to read this article.

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another malaysian said...

From the first rally in 2007, BERSIH has evolved a lot. The image of PAS Unit Amal holding arms side by side protecting the rally supporters in the heavy rain of that afternoon will be forever in my mind. Back then, it gained very little support from the Chinese community except a few who are sensitive to the local political scene. The trend has since changed and it is a good sign that other communities are showing their supports. Nevertheless, some hot headed supporters defies the advice to conduct the rally in a peaceful manner. They should be hold accountable for their violent acts and I believe the police would conduct a proper investigation into this. Pertaining to the poor rookie who drove himself into the mob, I for one starting to question the intelligence of our local enforcement officer. Would you put yourself into a situation whereby all the odds are against you? We are not talking about fictional superheroes here or someone trying to sacrifice himself. My two cents.

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clk said...

politics in m'sia is so embedded into our daily lives that any comment political or non-political becomes political, hence I can understand why Dali has a problem if he wants to stay out of politics. if Dali talks about sugar, cooking oil, condensed milk (which disappeared in m'sia few yrs ago), electricity, water, air-fares, toll, etc. one cannot avoid politics as these are all its prices and costs are politically driven. tell me what aspect of a m'sian is NOT politics anymore? i can't think of any!

Agent Diary said...

Dear Suri,

Let me enlighten you. To make thing idiot proof, I make it shortest possible for you specifically.

Central bank (CM) decides and regulates almost all financial activities in the country. It works closely with Treasury Department. In order words, whoever being in power will affect how the Central bank works. Same across the globe, no secret.

All assets classes in Malaysia, whether attractive or not, is DIRECTLY determined by investors' confidence to the country.

If you have only 2 choices, where do you want to park your life saving, A) South Korea or B) North Korea. Mind you, both are managed by Korean.

How our country is run is VERY crucial to the future of our country. (obviously our current government is in deterioration in an alarming rate)

Today's China is wealthy and growing. But, do you know what was China before 1978? It was FAR WORSE than North Korea! The Great Leap forward (> 50 million die of famine, my relative once told they eat kaolin before. It is a type of fine clay and look like flour), cultural revolution, the gang of four incidence ......

Therefore, to isolate financial matter from politic is utterly making no sense at all. Who table the budget? How and why a budget is designed? If you're not convince, please ignore the budget this coming Oct altogether and read only financial related news.

elizabeth said...

The STAR today uses the smashing of the police car as its front page. in 5 pages of report, focus on the negative. Its reporters did not interview those who came nor did it bother to tell Malaysians how many came. Not a single aerial view of the crowd that would show just what a mammoth crowd who turned up. The star said businesses lost money big time, but the pork porridge and the gee cheong fun stalls were sold out well before 10AM.

elizabeth said...

The STAR today uses the smashing of the police car as its front page. in 5 pages of report, focus on the negative. Its reporters did not interview those who came nor did it bother to tell Malaysians how many came. Not a single aerial view of the crowd that would show just what a mammoth crowd who turned up. The star said businesses lost money big time, but the pork porridge and the gee cheong fun stalls were sold out well before 10AM.

solomon said...

My 3 cents opinion, tear gas and razor wires are not necessary. Not too sure if dataran is open for gathering, whether this will end up better....

Suppression of voices or denial of fact could only lead to the creation of 1Malaysia spirit. Most of us need some breathing space and we pray that we are allowed under the older day harmony where Ajib, Ah chong, santokh singh, arumugam are fighting against the Colonisation...Is it we lost of one common objective now?? We have globalization etc in front, come on.....

Ps : I am eating my porridge as i write. I am sick and tired. As of now, I like porridge with spring onions, it taste better with this combination. dali kor, Do you want to have one??

Digital said...

As expected, DAP vice chairman Senator Tunku Abdul Aziz is right on the dot. The Pro-PR will blame the police, the gov or the authority. And the Pro-BN will blame the opposition and the organizer. So how about the fence sitter...blame who or who causes such problem? Both the Pro-PR and Pro-BN are having one eye only...reason is that they can only see one side but the fence sitter can see both sides. Maybe everyone need to ponder the following:

1. Why Bersih 2.0 is 8 points agenda and Bersih 3.0 is 22 points agenda? Bersih 4.0 going to hv 36 points and bersih 5.0 going to hv 50 points in future?
2. Amiga said she will respect the court order. So why she still want to go to Dataran Merdeka? Why not choose Stadium Merdeka as offered?
3. Will the people riot or the police shoot the tear gas if it is held in the approve Stadium Medeka?
4. Bersih 2.0 is still fresh in people's mind. Dont you think the impact will be great if Bersih 3.0 are held in Stadium Merdeka without any incidents?
5. Fine...it is last minute decision...do you announce in advance the name of the restaurant that you're going to hold your wedding dinner before booking the restaurant? Bersih submitted the application on Apr 19 and on Apr 20 they know it was rejected but was given alternative places.
6. Do you agree to the youth jumping over the police car, throwing stones, bottles and whatever they can get? If the youth are your children, do you approve it?
7. The gov is voted in by the people. So is the opposition that won the 5 states. So fine, the existing gov is fuck up...so you and me that vote them in. So we can vote them out too. So do you need a street demonstration to be in the gov? You have no confidence of winning?
8. If you said yes to 7, so when you're in the gov, do you want the same street demonstration to throw you out?
9. Is it worth it, if the Bersih 3.0 becomes 513? Remember that after the 513, the opposition losses the most. Same thing that happen with reformasi in 1998...after that opposition lose the most.

I believe the damage had been done...had they hold it in Stadium Merdeka and no incidents happen there, the rakyat will support all the way....but now it is totally a different ball game. I just want to enjoy my cup of tea along Jln TAR and look at the stocks...so dont kacau kacau us....take your fight somewhere else....let the people decide by the vote and not street demonstration.


P/s: Yes Dali is one eye blinded...no people under the car...they can squat down to look at it and no need to overturn it. Look at the 51sec segment...this guy keep on taking the police cone and hit the injured driver. In the 33sec-40sec, reporter was being attacked by the demonstrator...he keep on shouting "Salah orang...salah orang". Are all these acceptable? If you're blinded yes it is acceptable and if you're not then definitely this is not Malaysian way of life.

Rei said...

I'm also a neutral guy. Totally supporting digital opinion. What we need is peaceful change of government not street demotrastion after that the pro BN will hold another one like the Thai...how many people will get hurt....And I dont see Thailand getting wealthier after that. Just 2 group of people keep protesting each other and get to no where.

Digital said...

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/bersih-says-will-pursue-ec-chief-deputys-resignations/

As expected, Bersih 4.0 in the making with new agenda. Enjoy the ride.

jackofalltrades said...

@Digital,

1. Bersih 3.0 has 8 agenda only.

2. People were rallying and sitting in peacefully for the most part of the rally. I was quite surprised as I thought it would be chaotic. I left early because it was really 'uneventful' until some thugs broke through the barricades.

3. Will the (small group of) people riot if the sit-in was allowed at the dataran? Why would BS3.0 give in? If they said the sit-in would be at the stadium merdeka, the police would suggest to do it at Bukit Jalil instead.

4. Malaysian mudah lupa especially the kampung folks. Besides, the ultimate impact we would like to see is the electoral reform. If BS3.0 was held in Stadium Merdeka, the event wouldn't even appear on the mainstream media or get international attention. The yellow waves would be hidden by the walled stadium. Our lovely government wouldn't change without being pressured.

5. Why did they not allow the sit-in at dataran merdeka? They might as well declare the rally illegal and set up major road blocks to prevent us going into town. I drove into town without any issue. I marched with hundreds of people peacefully and orderly from brickfields towards dataran merdeka. We then sat down across the river from dataran merdeka. My point is the government had in a way allowed the rally near dataran merdeka. We were at the streets surrounding the dataran but we were not allowed to sit in at dataran.

6. People who still can differentiate rights from wrongs will not agree with what those youths had done. They should be taught a lesson. The majority of attendees were still the peaceful kinds. One bad apple doesn't mean all apples in the basket are rotten.

7. The government is not necessarily 'voted' by people if the electoral isn't clean. That's where BS comes in. The oppositions could have won more states if given the level playing field.

8. Demonstrations are healthy for democratic countries. Look at the developed nations, Hong Kong, etc. If PR really comes into power and fix all the wrongs done by BN, do you think people with sane mind will take things to the street? Only insane people like those from perkasa will protest for any petty issues which can serve their personal agenda. This kind of demonstration shouldn't be approved.

9. If there's a repeat of 513, it won't be that of Malays against non-Malays but Malaysians against UMNOputras. I witnessed 1trulymalaysia at the rally and not just a bare slogan like what our country premier is good at.

Damage or not depends on how you want to see it or how the mainstream media reported the event. Most dailies, especially the mouthpieces of BN had put the event in a bad light. But, I think the rally is one major step forward for us as Malaysian despite the turn of event towards the end.

jackofalltrades said...

@Digital,

1. Bersih 3.0 has 8 agenda only.

2. People were rallying and sitting in peacefully for the most part of the rally. I was quite surprised as I thought it would be chaotic. I left early because it was really 'uneventful' until some thugs broke through the barricades.

3. Will the (small group of) people riot if the sit-in was allowed at the dataran? Why would BS3.0 give in? If they said the sit-in would be at the stadium merdeka, the police would suggest to do it at Bukit Jalil instead.

4. Malaysian mudah lupa especially the kampung folks. Besides, the ultimate impact we would like to see is the electoral reform. If BS3.0 was held in Stadium Merdeka, the event wouldn't even appear on the mainstream media or get international attention. The yellow waves would be hidden by the walled stadium. Our lovely government wouldn't change without being pressured.

5. Why did they not allow the sit-in at dataran merdeka? They might as well declare the rally illegal and set up major road blocks to prevent us going into town. I drove into town without any issue. I marched with hundreds of people peacefully and orderly from brickfields towards dataran merdeka. We then sat down across the river from dataran merdeka. My point is the government had in a way allowed the rally near dataran merdeka. We were at the streets surrounding the dataran but we were not allowed to sit in at dataran.

6. People who still can differentiate rights from wrongs will not agree with what those youths had done. They should be taught a lesson. The majority of attendees were still the peaceful kinds. One bad apple doesn't mean all apples in the basket are rotten.

7. The government is not necessarily 'voted' by people if the electoral isn't clean. That's where BS comes in. The oppositions could have won more states if given the level playing field.

8. Demonstrations are healthy for democratic countries. Look at the developed nations, Hong Kong, etc. If PR really comes into power and fix all the wrongs done by BN, do you think people with sane mind will take things to the street? Only insane people like those from perkasa will protest for any petty issues which can serve their personal agenda. This kind of demonstration shouldn't be approved.

9. If there's a repeat of 513, it won't be that of Malays against non-Malays but Malaysians against UMNOputras. I witnessed 1trulymalaysia at the rally and not just a bare slogan like what our country premier is good at.

Damage or not depends on how you want to see it or how the mainstream media reported the event. Most dailies, especially the mouthpieces of BN had put the event in a bad light. But, I think the rally is one major step forward for us as Malaysian despite the turn of event towards the end.

k said...

heard that "they" might be calling off the controversial share-swap agreement btwn mas & airasia, i suppose this being so that they tink they shouldn't be pissing off 22,000 workers at mas. wat d fuck, who cares about these 22k when just on saturday, "they" in one fell swoop managed to piss-off 100-150k bersih supporters?? stupid asses...

Kingsmen said...

i wonder who is responsible for cleaning up the rubbishes

William Wang said...

The authorities are trying to justify their refusal to Malaysians basic rights by dragging in the aftermath. There was no reason whatsoever on tne authorities to refuse the peaceful sit-in in the first place (what will you do if someone were to built a fence right at the entrance to your house & say the authority approved it). Dataran belongs to the public and the demonstrators had every right to remove the barricades. The ministers themselves had indicaded, there was no reason for them to outlaw Bersih 3.0, so what were the enforcers trying to prove. Tear gas were even fired on crowds well away from Dataran and from higher platforms, these culprits had full intention to trap & hurt the demonstrators and fueled the violence. Some may try to justify for the authorities but who had been unlawful in refusing Malaysians basic rights in the first place.

Emily said...

Whichever way you look at it the police are seen to be beating up defenceless, unarmed people, people they are supposed to be protecting! What a shame!

Kingsmen said...

The truth is this is made in USA...colonailization6.0
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=30588

The Malaysian Wait said...

Kingsmen, the website you're citing is also seriously mulling over whether osama is still alive, or if global warming is in fact real. Needless to say, your source is shit, you are shit, shut up when the adults are talking

Blackpanther said...

BN in power- citizens peaceful rally

PR/Opposition in power- May 13??

So many people either forgotten how May 13 happened and why it happened.

Many more of our younger generations did not have to live through the May 13 tragedy.

Vote with your brains!

ahmadbob said...

Those who support this kind of demonstration should leave Malaysia and go to Thailand/Egypt.

ahmadbob said...

jackofalltrades: You said the electoral is not clean. That is not a fact, but allegation. If the election is not clean then tell me how PR won 5 states in the last GE. Tell me how Kelantan is ruled by PAS for the past 22 years?? Tell me!

Lord Helmchem said...

I bet a lot of Malaysians don't even know what really happened in the May 13 incident.

Read more (not your 'Sejarah' textbook please) & open up your eyes my friends....

Salvatore_Dali said...

ahmadbob,

how to win 5 states despite electoral rolls not clean???

easy, you have to actually get 65% real votes to maybe achieve 55% real final outcome in your favour

hence, the 5 states should have been 7 states, ok... i shall not call you naive yet...

summerhawk said...

ahmadbob,

Though I understand the Kelantanese quite superficially after working in the state for a short stint, but I dare to say I do understand why BN will never conquer the state no matter how unless they themselves wanted it. No matter what tricks you do...one will never win when 80 percent of the people vote against you !

Rightly do you realize that it is ignorant guys like you ruining this country by the yard ?

METALRAGE said...

Ahmadbob - For the same reason that my mother's car can still move even though the handbrakes are on. Because the engine is producing more force than the brakes can handle.

But my mother, argues first that if the handbrakes are on, how can the car move? Before herself looking down and seeing for herself that the handbrakes are on.

Lo and behold, she releases the handbrakes, and the car starts to move faster.

theone said...

Some jakun here still talking about 513, you dumb head are the ones who should go and read up history , that is history shit, time has changed, only those in power clinging on desparately flamming sentiment, Perkasa always talk about racism, may i know how was their so-called gathering held one day after bersih.. malaysians of all races / all walks of life will not sit/walk under the scorching sun just to show support for any politicians, we are talking about 250k malaysians , i dont think any party in malaysia can galvanise that kind of support, those dumb head condemning about bersih , open up your fucking brains and think , who has no fucking brains here. No brainers.

ccdev said...

if we want our country to advance, people should strive to argue & disagree 'politely'. the need to resort to personal insult is more akin to the monkey-fied behaviour you see so often at Parliament.

If we are to advance as a nation, think we should aim to voice our different opinions within decent social parameters. like learning how to insult someone sarcastically, instead of shouting crude names & thoughts (the loud BN UMNO style).

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ericngu said...

suri, clearly u need to get a cure for ur head. enuff said!

splinky said...

We can talk till we turn blue in the face and nothing is going to change. Trade insults, arguments, facts, figures, look at this and that video blah blah blah.

Those who support BN will vote for BN and the same is true for those who support PR. Nobody is going to change their stance even when challenged by undeniable proof. That is the fact of the matter.

We Malaysians have a herd mentality. We just follow like buffaloes. Just look at the stock market....